#12: Embracing Change & Starting Again with Abby Skinner
In this episode, I interviewed Abby Skinner, owner of The Iron Studio. We had a great conversation about how Abby has embraced change throughout her career from choosing to leave her role as a physical therapist to being forced into making an unexpected, yet ultimately rewarding, change.
In this episode, Abby shares:
- Her journey from a physical therapist to gym owner
- Why it’s ok to walk away from something, even if you’ve worked really hard to get there
- How different parts of her journey show themselves in her current role
- How being forced into her new role has been more rewarding than she could have imagined
- Ways to embrace change, even when it’s scary
- How she’s dealing with the challenges of running her own business
- The importance of having a mentor
- What her long-term vision looks like
- Specific mindset tips for managing unexpected change
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Episode 12 Transcript
Deanna Pecina: [00:00:00] I think that that’s a really valid point because regardless of who a person is, when you’re running something,
We all have our own individual strengths and talents, and there’s only so much that can be done throughout the course of the day. And it’s natural that we wanna lean on the things that we’re good at or the things that we know, because that’s how we have survived and gotten to where we are. And so being able to lean on those systems and set those goals and have those things makes it so that you can move forward.
But it also helps you identify what are the blind spots or what are the areas. . If and when it becomes time to bring someone on to help you, what does that look like?
Welcome to the Leading by Type podcast. I’m Deanna Pecina, former school administrator turned nea Graham practitioner and disc consultant, and I’m obsessed with all things leadership and learning. I hope you’ll join me each week as we have conversations about communication, team building and embracing your leadership genius.
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welcome Abby. I’m so glad to have you here today. I wanna welcome Abby Skinner to the podcast. Abby and I have worked together in the past and she has started down a new journey where she is running her own business, and I would love for her to introduce herself and just share a little bit about what she’s doing right now, and then we’ll lead into some questions about how you got.
Abby Skinner: Sure sounds good. And thank you for having me on. I’m really excited. So my name is Abby Skinner. I’m a physical therapist by trade. I have my doctorate in physical therapy. Worked as a physical therapist for a couple years. Did a few other things. And then now I am running my own gym. So I run a fitness studio that is for women only and I train women in weightlifting and help them get in shape and just take control of their.
selves when it comes to fitness and getting in shape and getting healthier and that kind of thing. So yeah, been a lot of fun. Really exciting.
Deanna Pecina: And how long have you been doing that?
Abby Skinner: I just started in July, so a couple months now.
Deanna Pecina: . I have to tell you, I see your posts and I so wish that [00:02:00] I lived near you because you have created, just from an outsider’s perspective, you’ve created a place that’s really inclusive.
When I see. The age of people, and then I see moms in there with their babies and it just seems like a place where, like you said, everyone just, it just seems so welcoming and I just feel like it’s important that you know that from an outsider’s perspective, that that’s what it looks like.
Abby Skinner: Thank you cuz that was definitely my goal.
I know it’s intimidating, especially as a woman trying to go into the gym and learn how to lift weights and that kind of thing. So I just wanted to provide a space for girls of all ages and you know, all over the, all, hopefully one day all over the us, all over the world. But you know, to come and feel like they could lift weights, learn how to do that safely.
Mm-hmm. . So thank you. I appreciate that.
Deanna Pecina: You’re welcome. And we’ll get to that in a minute because, I do wanna know what is your vision? Where do you see this heading? Because I have the sense that it’s something that will become much bigger than what it is right now, and that’s super exciting. But let’s go back a little bit [00:03:00] before you mentioned that you were, are a physical therapist.
what is that process like to become a physical therapist? How much time did you have to invest in it? How much time working towards it, that type of thing?
Abby Skinner: Yeah, so it’s actually seven years. So you you have to do four years of undergrad. So I got my undergraduate in exercise science. And then it’s a three year graduate program to actually get your doctorate in physical therapy.
I spent three years in graduate school. We did two years of schoolwork and then our last year we spent actually out doing clinical rotations. So seven years total,
Deanna Pecina: which is a lot of time . Yeah, it was a long time. A long time. A lot of work. And then once you did that, you worked with, I know you worked with children.
Did you work in other capacities as well?
Abby Skinner: I did, so I worked in outpatient orthopedics, so kind of general population and then some athletes. I did that for a while. . . I did work at the hospital for a little bit too, so I did some acute care and then I worked with pediatrics as my last, so with kids for my last physical [00:04:00] therapists job before I kind of stepped away from physical therapy for a little while.
So yeah, all, all the populations, pretty much in PT that I worked with.
Deanna Pecina: It’s funny because my background is in education, but it’s similar. I joke that I’ve taught everything from preschool up to college , so yeah. Yep. There’s not an age that I haven’t worked with, and you and I have similar stories because I spent years working to become a school principal, only to realize I hated it.
Mm-hmm. and. , it was not what I imagined it to be, and I realized it just was not a good fit. And if I knew then what I know now, I would under, I would make total sense. Like, oh, that, this is why I don’t like this. Yeah. So I’m curious, having spent all of that time and effort and energy working towards something and then doing it, what was it that led you to make that decision to walk?
Abby Skinner: Oh man, it was, it was a combination of things. So, and when I look back on it now, I think that a big part of it, and [00:05:00] a big part of the reason I wanted to start my own business was just I wanted to be able to do things my way. Mm-hmm. . And it was frustrating being bound by some of the regulations that come along with working and help.
Care and that kind of thing. I mean, I got into it cuz I wanted to help people and I sometimes felt like my hands were tied when it came to trying to help people. So that was part of it. I wanted to. , I, I was scared to like, take a leap of faith and do something different.
Mm-hmm. , but I just knew I needed a break. I felt like it just wasn’t a good fit anymore. And I’m not, I don’t regret like, you know, going to PT score or anything. Cause I think that was really helpful in what I’m doing now. I mean, I learned all about the body and, and that kind of thing. And so it’s, it’s totally benefiting me now.
And I, I’m happy for all the people that I got to meet and help along the way. But yeah, it. , it just felt like it wasn’t the right fit anymore. It felt like it wasn’t what I was supposed to be doing anymore. Mm-hmm. .
Deanna Pecina: that’s a hard, a hard decision to make when You feel [00:06:00] like you know what you wanna do and then one day you wake up and you realize, I absolutely, I don’t wanna do this anymore.
And it’s scary. And I bring that up because I know that your DISC profile is a cs. Mm-hmm. and CS and SS are. Slower to make decisions. Mm-hmm. , . And that’s, it’s not a bad thing, right? Because we need people who can make snap decisions, but we also need people who can say, wait a minute, I, I need some more information, or I need to know this, this, and this before I can move forward.
So Cs want information, and Ss need to feel safe in the decisions that they make. I’m curious, when you were looking for something else, what did that look like? What were the qualities and characteristics that you were drawn to? .
Abby Skinner: I really wanted to have something where I could be more autonomous and where I got to make the decisions.
Even if I took my time making them , I still wanted to kinda be the person making the [00:07:00] decision, which was really a big change from where I had been kind of previously in my life and in my thought process. Cause I always thought like, oh, I’ll just work for someone else so I don’t have to be responsible for all of the things.
I just have reached a point where I was like, I need something where I have a little bit more control and a little bit more say, so I don’t wanna do this forever.
Deanna Pecina: that makes a lot of sense. And the CS profile is considered to be a precisionist, or a perfectionist. And when I look at the description here, precisionist are precise, detailed, stable.
Systematic thinkers, tactful, diplomatic, they like to avoid conflict. , , very conscientious, painstakingly, require Accuracy, high standards. And it’s funny because when I look at this, and I think back to the time where I worked with you, all of those things were very evident. You have very high standards for yourself.
and you take great pride in what it is [00:08:00] that you do and what it is that you deliver to other people. talk to us a little bit about your personal power lifting, because I think that that’s important. Like you’re really strong and .
Abby Skinner: Okay. So yes, I am a power lifter.
I haven’t competed in a little over a year. It’s been, I’ve kinda been dealing with a little bit of injury and that kind of thing, but I got into power lifting. Around like 26 or 27. I’m 32. Just forever. Forever. So about five or six years ago, I, I was just kinda like, I wanted, I was enjoying lifting weights and I was like getting pretty strong and I was like, I wanna do something with this.
Mm-hmm. . And then I learned that there were like power lifting competitions where you can go compete and like, See who’s the strongest. And I was like, okay, let’s do this. So I’ve done a couple I, the last one I did actually placed first in my weight class, and then third overall out of like 20 plus girls.
So it’s kind of good, good one to end on for a little bit. And then there’s, there’s one coming up in this summer that I may do, but yeah, I don’t, it was. Not something I ever would’ve pictured myself doing. Like [00:09:00] I never touched a weight until I was in like my early twenties. So it’s kind of wild that I’m now a competitive power lifter, but it is just really fun and a way to kind of put, to use all the gains that I’ve been making in the gym.
Deanna Pecina: If you see a video of, of Abby, it’s really impressive what she’s able to do and I, I wanted to pull that out. You know, when you look at your, your education, you look at your experience, you look at the things that you’re interested in personally, what you’re doing right now makes total sense.
Mm-hmm. , it’s a blend of all of those things. And I know that the beginning of this was in a time where it wasn’t necessarily your. Decision, if that makes sense. ? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Abby Skinner: It was like, it literally came out of like, just have to like, I was forced into it. .
Deanna Pecina: So talk to me about that. What was that like?
Because I know that as a CS, that that’s a scary situation where now you’re, you’re, you’re essentially forced into, okay, now what am I gonna do? Mm-hmm. . And what does that look [00:10:00] like? How did you make the decision? To just go for it because everything has happened really fast.
Abby Skinner: It’s really funny because I have been told by.
A couple of people over the years said, this is something I should do, or I’ve been asked by, you know, a couple of other people, like, Hey, would do you train people? Would you be willing to train me? Mm-hmm. . And at the time it was just not something that would, that would work with my schedule. Like I was, at the time, I was working as a physical therapist and I was like, I just, I really don’t have the time.
Like I barely have time to get my workouts in. I don’t really have time to train someone else. Mm-hmm. And I was really just going along with. CS characteristics. Like, I was really scared to do that because I do want, I’m like, what if I didn’t get people results they wanted, or like, what if I didn’t do a good enough job at this or mm-hmm.
you know, there was a lot of fear around that and I was like, I, I know that I give good workouts for myself, but what if someone else doesn’t like it or I don’t do a good job for them? So I had a ton of fear around that initially. And then I was just put in a position where I was let go from the [00:11:00] job that I was in and I was.
Now what , because I didn’t really wanna go back to physical therapy. I was not really missing it. And so it honestly came from like, I was pushed into it by a friend a little bit. He was, he has a gym and he highly encouraged me to start doing that. We have our, we have our own garage gym that I built.
That’s mm-hmm. pretty awesome. So he was like, start training girls in your garage. And I was like, I can’t do that. Like, that’s not gonna work. Nobody’s gonna wanna come here and work out. And he kept encouraging me. And then finally I was, I mean like what do I have to lose? I don’t have another job lined up right now.
Mm-hmm. , I dunno exactly what I’m going to do, so why not just see if I can get a couple of girls interested, just, you know, make a little bit of money to kind of get us through until I have, you know, my next position. Mm-hmm. and it was. You know, I posted it and I was like, you know, maybe I’ll get five or 10 girls and now I have like 35.
So, . . Yeah. .
Deanna Pecina: And you’re busier than you thought you would be?
Abby Skinner: Yes. Yeah. Way [00:12:00] busier than I thought I would be. For sure.
Deanna Pecina: So what are some of the challenges that you’ve grown up against in this process and, and specifically, where are some areas where you feel like your leadership has been tested?
Abby Skinner: For me, I think it’s just.
kind of knowing what to do next because I’ve always been given instructions like, this is what you do. You know, this is, this is your job description. This is what I need you to do day in, day out, and that kind of thing. And so, you know, when the girls are there, it’s, it’s training them’s easy. That’s the easy part.
It’s, mm-hmm. , I guess the running the business part, that is hard for me because never run a business before, and so I’m like, , how do I get more girls? You know, how, what should I do with the money that I make and you know, how do I advertise and that kind of thing. So I think it’s the business side that probably challenges me just because I’ve never done it before.
Mm-hmm. like training people is the easy part. Come in, we’re gonna have a great workout. That’s no problem. I’ve been doing that for years and years. That’s the fun part. So I think it’s the business side that probably challenges me and challenges my [00:13:00] leadership there. .
Deanna Pecina: And that makes sense because there are certain profile types that do better when they have a specific framework to follow.
Mm-hmm. and CSS are one of them. They do better with predictability and stability. And as a C S I, I’m similar. if I know what the rules are, I’m gonna knock it out of the park. But if there’s any ambiguity, I just spiral or I spend all this time researching and it just, I overwhelm myself. Mm-hmm.
And so knowing that, what are some steps that you’ve taken to help combat that? You know, realizing that that’s where the struggle is. How are you addressing. ?
Abby Skinner: Well, for one, I have a, some, my friend that I mentioned that mm-hmm. has known gym. He’s kind of mentoring me, so that’s helping a little bit. So just kinda reaching out to some other people that are in the world of business and I know have kind of gone through this before and are willing to help a little bit has helped me.
Mm-hmm. . I honestly, right now everything is so [00:14:00] chaotic that I’m just like, Keep, just keep swimming, just keep your head above water. Like I really did not anticipate being this busy this quickly. So I’m like mm-hmm. , let’s just make sure everyone’s getting their workouts in and then we’ll go from there.
And I, I kind of anticipate that in November and December. Things maybe slow down a little bit just with the holidays. Mm-hmm. . So I am kind of trying to make a list of things I wanna work on a little bit then on the business side of things. Mm-hmm. , that’s kind of my step so far. And I don’t, I don’t know.
We’ll see from there. Cause just happened. It’s been like a whirlwind. I really did not expect it. Mm-hmm. to take off this quickly.
Deanna Pecina: it’s, it’s been fun to watch mm-hmm. , because there’s been times where I’ve contacted you and I’m like, wow, she’s really busy. . Which is a good thing.
Abby Skinner: Yeah. It’s good. I’m not complaining.
Not complaining.
Deanna Pecina: So my question then would be, you know that there’s things that you wanna work on. How can you lean into those strengths that you have as someone who exhibits precision in detail and structure? So getting really clear on those areas that feel [00:15:00] chaotic, so that when you have that space to be able to focus on them, how can you use the skillset that you have and the things that come naturally to you to build out those structures and things to help contain that sense of overwhelm or chaos that might be going.
Abby Skinner: So I’m trying to keep a list of all the things I wanna work on when I have downtime. . , and it’s not a very detailed list at the moment, but I do have a list of things that I wanna try and tackle when things do slow down a little bit around the holidays and that kind of thing. So that’s kind of where I’m at right now.
And. Normally I’m like a, you know, I use Google Calendar too. Google Calendar helps save my life. . That, that helps me with the details as well. And normally I’m like a, I’m very much, I feel a little bit out of my element with this right now too, because it’s kind of throw me off of what would be like my norm.
. Like normally I have like a pretty. strict routine, like morning even and that kind of thing. And you have to be flexible to do this because , you’ve got people that, you know, go into work at 7:00 AM down at [00:16:00] three, and they wanna come work out. And then you’ve got the opposite end of the spectrum where people go in later, so they wanna come earlier.
So I. I’ve had to, I’ve had to learn to adapt a little bit too. Like I’ve had to learn to adapt and be a little bit more flexible with my schedule. Cuz normally I’m pretty rigid of like, okay, I wanna do this at this time and then like this. But for some reason it makes it easier knowing that I’m the one that gets the say so in that, Though my schedule is kind of adapting and changing on kind of a daily basis, which is not normally something I. . I’m the one that gets to say that. That’s okay. So that has helped a little bit too in becoming just, I just have to, I just had to adapt a little bit. . .
Deanna Pecina: But I, you know, and I think that that’s a really valid point because regardless of who a person is, when you’re running something,
We all have our own individual strengths and talents, and there’s only so much that can be done throughout the course of the day. And it’s natural that we wanna lean on the things that we’re good at or the things that we know, because that’s how we [00:17:00] have survived and gotten to where we are. And so being able to lean on those systems and set those goals and have those things makes it so that you can move forward.
But it also helps you identify what are the blind spots or what are the areas. . If and when it becomes time to bring someone on to help you, what does that look like?
Abby Skinner: Yeah, that’s a good point. Yeah, that’s a good point.
Deanna Pecina: have you thought that far ahead in terms of where this might go? Do you wanna be in your garage forever or do you have a vision of something beyond where you are right now?
Abby Skinner: I definitely want to, I definitely wanna get out of the garage at some point. I wanna have an actual studio and I, I’d like to even get it to the point where it’s not just, you know, when the girls are scheduled to come, like, we’ve got an open, open gym for if you wanna come and get classes for me, or whatever.
Or if you just wanna come and follow your own routine. That’s really what I would like to get to at some point. and I think about that and I get a little scared cause I’m like, whew, [00:18:00] that’s a big step there. You know, I mean, moving from the garage to having like my own studio. But that is definitely something that I, that I wanna get to.
And I mean, eventually it feel, it just feels really like. Really out there right now because I’m like, I’m training for my garage, but mm-hmm. eventually, I’d love if, you know, it, were something that expanded because I, I just want to, I want women to have a space where they can go work out and feel safe, and feel confident and get stronger and not have to worry about, you know, the anxiety that comes along with going to the gym and that kind of thing.
That would be, you know, my, I guess my vision right now is like to provide a space for everyone in Jackson, Alabama where I live and where I. , I’m coaching girls to have a space to come, but maybe eventually it’s the whole state of Alabama and then, you know, the whole state of the US or the whole country.
Mm-hmm. knows.
Deanna Pecina: So, so, and that’s where working with a mentor is helpful because you, you know, and I know who it is that you’re working with and so to know just for those of you all who don’t know, the person that she’s working with is someone who [00:19:00] built a gym in a old, in an old gas station and has created a, an amazing system.
he has a tremendous story, all of his own. And he’s been really taking you and, and encouraging you. Mm-hmm. , which is so wonderful to see. And ha. And knowing him, you know, he has his own strengths and he has his own weaknesses as well. And yet he’s been able to do it right. And so we look for evidence of people who have been able to achieve what it is that we wanna do as a reminder that it’s possible.
Someone who has managed school myself and working and all those things, I would challenge you to think back to that time when you were going to school for seven years and you were doing all of the work to earn your doctorate, which is a massive accomplishment in and of itself, and the skillsets that were required to make that happen.
How can those spill over into what you’re doing now as evidence of your ability to accomplish something that at the time probably [00:20:00] seemed like a lot, you did it and you did it well. How does that translate to setting you up to win in what you’re doing currently?
Abby Skinner: Oh, that’s good. Yeah, I like that. I’ll have to use that because I know with school it was definitely.
I was just, I used my, I used my CS skills and I knew that, you know, I knew the time that I had available and what I needed to get done. And so I pretty much would, you know, kind of schedule out for the week. Like, Hey, this is what I’ve gotta get done this week. I know I’m gonna be in class from eight to five.
I’ll have, you know, from five to six I’m going to the gym and then I’ve got from six to seven 30 where I need to do homework or study or whatever. So, yeah, it’s just gonna be using that, that same framework. That’s a great point. I like,
Deanna Pecina: I think it’s so easy, and I’m guilty of this too, if we’re doing something new, focusing on, oh my gosh, well, there’s all of these things that I don’t know how to do, but when you look back at all of the things that you’ve accomplished up to where you are now, you’ve done nothing but figure out how to do things.
Mm-hmm. how to do them well, and so the skills are there, it’s just applying it to a different [00:21:00] situ. and one of the strengths that you really, really have going for you is you can connect with people very easily you have this way about you that just makes people feel comfortable and I’m, I would imagine that that’s a skill that you have to use on a daily basis, especially when you’re dealing with people who maybe don’t have the confide. When they first come to you?
Abby Skinner: Yeah, for sure. And it’s kind of one that I didn’t really, not that I didn’t know. That I had it, but I guess I just didn’t feel super confident in it because that was one of the things that I was worried about.
You know? I was like, what if they come, they don’t enjoy it, or I don’t do a good job, or we don’t connect or whatever. But I think, I mean, yeah, I feel like I’ve done a really good job of making girls feel comfortable and. And so one of the things really that, you know, they’ve told me after we meet for the first time and that kind of thing, they’re like, you just made me feel really comfortable.
And I was, I was nervous to come work out, but you made it a comfortable setting and I had a great workout and I enjoyed it, which is really all I, I want for them anyway, [00:22:00] so, mm-hmm. I, yeah, you’re right. I, it’s not, it’s a skill that I kind of. . I guess I knew that I had it, but wasn’t super confident in it at the same time, if that makes sense.
But for sure, I mean, it’s something that you’ve gotta do. if I want them to come back, they’ve gotta feel comfortable there and they’ve gotta feel confident in me and that kind of thing, so. Mm-hmm. ?
Deanna Pecina: Well, because I, you know, the things that we have that are skills, a lot of times we don’t see them that way because it’s just so natural and easy for us.
Mm-hmm. . But you really do have the ability to help people feel supported and safe. , I’m sure there are people out there who think that kindness is not a strength, but I can tell you that the, the type of kindness that you have is an absolute superpower. A hundred percent.
Abby Skinner: The girls that come to me, you know, I mean, they come because they’ve been to a commercial gym or something like that, and they’re, they’re like, I just d know what to do in there.
Or I get anxious or people stare at me, or, you know, I just, I’m just not comfortable in, in a gym setting. So like, I have to make them feel comfortable and I have to be, you know, I have [00:23:00] to be kind to them, which it’s easy. I mean, it’s easy to do. Like they’re excited to be there most of the time anyway, so.
I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s very easy to do and I want to do it because I want them to feel like they have a safe space to work. Everyone should have that, but I mean, I, mm-hmm. , I’ve probably talked with. I don’t know. I mean, I have 35, 36 clients, something like that. But I mean, I’ve probably talked with 50 or more girls at this point, and almost every one of them tells me either I just don’t feel comfortable with the gym.
I get nervous in there. I’ve been made to feel uncomfortable in the gym for some reason or the other. Mm-hmm. or just, you know, like I’ve just, it just stresses me out going in there. And I, that should not be the case. Like, you should have a, a space where you can come and feel safe to work out. And that’s what, that’s what I wanna provide.
Deanna Pecina: It’s obvious that you do that, and it really speaks to something that I believe is that when we use our skills as a leader, we’re using our skills to be able to connect with other people and to influence them in a positive way. , and it’s not something that’s dependent upon a title or a role, or someone bestowing some magical powers upon you and saying, you [00:24:00] are now the leader.
You know, , you just, you just naturally do that when you come into an environment, you know, I witnessed it firsthand. And I know that the people that you’re working with feel that as well. And so that would be another thing that I. encourage you to just really lean into is that it’s so clear that you have such a powerful mission that you’re trying to accomplish.
If you had any advice to give to someone who. either is thinking about wanting to try something new or has spent a lot of time pouring them into something and then realizing, oh my gosh, this is not for me. Or finds themself in a situation where, oh crap. Now what, what, what advice would you have for someone?
Abby Skinner: I would say for starters, if you’re like me, don’t worry about what other people think because that was one of the big things for me. I mean, I did spend seven years going to school and I was like, what are people gonna think? Mm-hmm. when I tell them that I’ve left, you know, this, this great profession that I spent seven long years [00:25:00] working to get to, to go do, you know, something completely different and that I maybe even necessarily didn’t have to go to school for.
And I spent a long time thinking like, oh my gosh, what are people gonna think or what are they gonna say? And I was like, What does it matter? Because it’s not their life, you know, like mm-hmm. , they weren’t the ones that went to work every day and just felt entirely unfulfilled and just felt like they were not where they were supposed to be.
So I would say to not worry about what other people think, and think about what really matters to you and what’s really important to you and what’s really gonna fulfill you and make you happy, and then just go for it. I mean, there’s always the chance that it doesn’t work out. And at least then, you know mm-hmm.
so you gave it a shot. And there’s also the chance it’s gonna work out even more than you ever could have imagined, because I, at no point would I have thought that I’d be training 30 plus girls. I mean, I just wanted like five or so to mm-hmm. to see would work. So I think just, just trying, you know, you don’t have to have it all figured out.
You don’t have to have it. Perfect. That was one of the things I was like, I need to have everything planned out systems in place and all this stuff. And[00:26:00] sometimes just getting it out there and, and getting it started is, is the biggest step you need to take. So don’t worry about what others say.
Don’t be afraid of failure If you failed and you’ve learned something, and you’ll know how to, you know, do it better next time. So just get out there and do it.
Deanna Pecina: That is such great advice and as you know, if, if you’re listening to this and you know that on the DISC profile you’ve got some C and you’ve got some S in your profile, that probably really resonates with you and just know that.
You have the ability, you have what it takes. Look for past evidence of the truth. Don’t focus on the fear of what if, what if, what if? Look for evidence of what you’ve been able to achieve in the past and really lean into those skills that you have because they’ve gotten you to where you are, and they’re gonna get you to where it is that you wanna be.
Abby Skinner: Yep. A hundred percent .
Deanna Pecina: Well, I’m so glad we were able to connect today. This was so much fun, and I really love watching your journey, and I can’t wait to see what 2023 brings for you. Thank you. Thank you for having me on. It [00:27:00] was super fun. You’re welcome, and I will see you soon.
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